Players Still Pushing Petitions to Free Those That Were Banned by Huntgate

Neverwinter doesn’t seem to be able to escape the mists of Huntgate. Even weeks after the massive banwave talk on social networks is dominated by players complaining. Julia had to shut down any questions on the Driftwood Tavern stream last week, but that didn’t stop players from keeping the topic alive. One petition is particularly persistent and appears on social searches almost daily. The well-written reasoning is closing in on a thousand supporters and will eventually be sent to Wizards of the Coast, Perfect World, and Cryptic Studios. If you still want to make your voice heard, this might be your best chance. Here’s the petition’s key points:

Neverwinter: Free Players That Were Permanently Banned Without Warning and Lost Everything

  • Players were banned due to using a several month old bug.
  • Permanent bans on many players without any warning and regardless of prior infractions.
  • Players have lost the use of things they have purchased with real money and in some cases spent thousands of hours to legitimately acquire.
  • The developers should work with the community to give players forewarning in game; which their technology clearly supports.

In case you like to support the case, go to change.org and sign the petition. To be honest we don’t think that permanently banned players will get released, but it’s still worth a shot. It’s also a matter of not letting the devs get away with the mistakes they undoubtedly made in the process of dealing with the whole Huntgate mess.


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18 thoughts on “Players Still Pushing Petitions to Free Those That Were Banned by Huntgate

  • October 14, 2018 at 3:06 pm
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    The Devs poorly write a game, they should not take it out on the players who pay their company. This is their way of saying this is our fault and not theirs. Take responsibility and own i devs! Instead they block angry players from places like a Twitter instead of listening. Free the banned players!

  • October 14, 2018 at 4:04 pm
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    Regardless of how bad programmed the game is you shouldn’t abuse any kind of bug and get out unscated, it would be ridiculous if people who made millions using the bug weren’t banned, the only problem is that it took devs too long to ban them, let me get this straight, no matter if u are a streamer, a casual or hardcore player, you are not special and you are under their ToS.

    • October 14, 2018 at 7:39 pm
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      Given the devs usual lack of due diligence and lazy programing I wonder how many bans went out to people that never even opened the Mod 14 zone let alone used the bug.

      • October 14, 2018 at 10:32 pm
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        Sorry but the only mistake Cryptic made was to wait this long to start seriously ban CHEATERS, because that what they are. It doesn’t matter if they take a year to fix a bug or if is announced or not, you know is a bug and using it is an exploit, and per the ToS you can be banned, people use it and got banned, thats all.
        Or what? you think because is there for a long time a exploit can became a feature? you are sorelly wrong.

        • October 15, 2018 at 2:27 pm
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          It matters a lot whether a bug is fixed promptly or like many in this game sits around for years. It speaks to the competence or lack there of, as well as the poor work ethic of those that design the game. People of low competence and poor work ethic fuck up a lot. In fact they fuck up just about everything they do. Now given the low level of competence and poor work ethic displayed by Cryptic employees and the very horrible track record Cryptic has with banning innocent folks the question remains “how many bans went out to people that never even opened the Mod 14 zone let alone used the bug in question?” I suspect it is not a small number.

        • October 17, 2018 at 3:45 am
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          Ofcourse a ‘bug’ is a feature unless it is a) declared a bug and b) measures are taken to fix it. How are we to know what is a bug and what a feature when there is 0 reliable documentation on how things are supposed to work? How many rewards have been created via dungeon glitches etc, without ANY punishment.

          It’s not equivalent to getting a ticket for speeding. It’s the equivalent of getting 7 years forced labour for an infraction usually netting a written warning at most. It’s cruel and unusual punishment.

  • October 14, 2018 at 5:27 pm
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    Agreed with Pred. If you’re caught speeding, you get a ticket. Doesn’t matter that you never got a ticket for it before, even though you’re speeding every day. Doesn’t matter if nobody else got a ticket. You knew it was wrong, you did it, you got caught. Man up.

  • October 14, 2018 at 6:02 pm
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    – Releases an exploitable known bug months later on consoles despite PC/test server community bringing the info to them.

    – Allows it it be spammed in zone chat and ran for a long time on console before ever publicly acknowledged it.

    – Banned players inconsistently in a flip of a coin way.

    – Those who quit doing hunts immediately after they first made an announcement about it were still banned.

    – They banned on a Friday and went home for the weekend without even sending emails to the affected banned players. Leaving them without info on the severity or reason of their punishment.

    Many went numerous days without knowing the status of their particular case even as much as a week or longer.

    Huntgate in general stinks to high heaven. Seems so shady and done with a hidden agenda.

    Let me just cover my particular case and dealing with PWE.

    My fiance and I ran the same amount of hunts and did not run any without each other. We received the same rewards. Between refinement and rAD I am guessing we made around 1.5mil each or so.

    Not even a full weeks worth of roughs and refinement that I used to turn an alternative artifact mythic. She received a 7 day ban while I received a permanent ban. It what way is that professional or just?

    In less than a year I alone on my account have put over a 1000 dollars easily not counting how much beyond that was used on my fiance’s account. Which us supporting the game in that sense helps keep the game free to play for a good majority of you.

    Other than “hunt gate I have never done anything wrong on my account not so much as even spoken ill word to a player and when contacting PWE through ticket explaining things and trying to reach an agreement on a lesser punishment I get pushed up the line of authority just to hear my dedication to never winter is appreciated but they won’t lift my ban.

    They wouldn’t give me reason for why I have to be permanently banned while my fiance who did the same amount got 7 days. Not even counting the fact that someone who did it 10x as much as we ever did is in game as I write this. There are just no words that show how that makes me feel.

    A company and game I have put so much in can’t even offer me a reason why I am worse and deserve a harsher punishment than someone else who did the same or more than me.

    I won’t even go into those poor people who were banned and stripped of resources when they never even did a hunt or been to Barovia.

    The way this whole thing turned out it is almost as if this is the result they wanted for some reason.

    With so much incompetence and neglect for players who have given so much they have alienated so many people for a handful of refinement and rAD.

    DnD a game franchise I care tremendously for deserve better than what PWE and Cryptic are doing to it and handling it’s name.

    Many of us are hurt and upset with how things are but in the end we just want to play the game and characters we have put so much time and money into. If they can blame the players for exploiting the hunts we can blame them for ever allowing it to begin with as well with how it was handled.

    All we are asking for as players is a little communication to avoid such things. Permanner bans for this? It’s not needed or wanted and it hunts all involved. Can’t we just admit players and companies could both have done better with this? Use this as a learning tool to better deal with things like this in the future?

    • October 14, 2018 at 11:11 pm
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      All i read is a cry baby try to defend his unfair actions. You are responsible for your actions. I dont care how many dollars you spent in this game. This doesnt give you any right to destroy this game with you shitty exploit using.

      • October 15, 2018 at 5:48 am
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        That’s your opinion and you are entitled to it but mine remains they poorly handled information on the hunts, executed punishment in the worst way possible.

        Also in what way did I destroy the game with the small amount I made? It didn’t alter the economy in any way. They could have simply taken it away from me that would have been fine.. but permanent ban while others are not is BS. Call it crying or whatever you choose but if it isn’t fair for me to glitch hunt it isn’t fair for them to roll the dice on who to lock out while worst offenders still play.

        Should they not also be held accountable for bugs and glitches that cost the players money? Bugs that have been in game for over a year that they ignore?
        Is it right that they offer in game purchases while neglecting such things that are brought up timelessly?

    • October 15, 2018 at 9:49 am
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      If what you described is true and not skewed by personal perspective, then Cryptic should look into your case and I hope you get your ban lifted. If you spent over 1k in a year and only made 1.5m AD with the hunt exploit, a perm ban seems to go completely against their interests. That’s definitely a very strange thing for them to do on something which they can easily query from their DB.

      • October 15, 2018 at 11:40 am
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        It is not personal perspective. I have both tickets I opened still for any future reference. I explain all of this to them. To them regardless what was made it is the amount of times. As stated here and elsewhere 100 hunts counted as 100 broken ToS.

        I even still tried to say why is the amount I ran worse than someone who ran the same or more than me and why are they allowed back yet I’m not allowed back.

        I’m truly at a loss for words with how it all went. You want to try to work with and reach common ground with customers and players who are helping your game. Even spent 50 dollars on my account and 50 on my fiances account 3 days before being banned. Feels bad

  • October 14, 2018 at 7:43 pm
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    The petition idea is not horrible, though anyone that has been playing this game for a few years probably realizes that Cryptic does not give a shit about their customers. A better petition to organize would be one to various Attorney Generals and their counterparts in other countries asking for investigations into Cryptics very blatant violation of gambling laws.

  • October 15, 2018 at 1:14 am
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    Let theorycrafters and good players back. 😛
    Okay. With some AD restrictions!

  • October 15, 2018 at 10:03 am
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    Ban the players a month and strip off their ADs but never perma ban a player. They spent years and years, spent an awful lot of money just to upgrade their toon,and without even a first offense warning you Perma ban them because they participated in a bug that you have’nt fixed for a long long time? the devs don’t even wanna hear out their customer’s explanation lol. Perfect world and cryptic must be trying so hard to kill this game.

  • October 16, 2018 at 6:52 pm
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    ideal world, they would have just reverted the accounts back to pre-mod 14 so they can start over. however

    some people have multiple accounts. some people moved resources to the other accounts

    its unreasonable to expect cryptic to not only chase down who exploited, but also all their transactions in game since mod 14 launch

    as a business person i would go with the approach that limits the damage to the game and balances my effort. Obviously they’ve decided what they feel is appropriate.

    And once again for @DeadsyCOD, limiting the topic to the impact of salvage is intentionally minimizing the scope of the action. Also your fiance’s punishment is less severe because that’s fair. Same thing happens in real world crimes. Men receive harsher punishments than women. welcome to patriarchy 🙂

    I’m not sure how anyone could argue that obtaining extra AD doesn’t “alter the economy in any way”

    “Should they not also be held accountable for bugs and glitches that cost the players money? Bugs that have been in game for over a year that they ignore?
    Is it right that they offer in game purchases while neglecting such things that are brought up timelessly?”

    they are held accountable. How many people abandon the game over these issues. They have drawn a line in the sand and decided those people are not worth their investment to resolve those issues. Its a simple business decision, same as you make when you decide which box of Mac & Cheese to buy. You vote with your RL$, they decided your RL$ wasn’t enough to make a change

  • October 28, 2018 at 6:05 pm
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    perfect world is unperfect world lol

  • October 28, 2018 at 6:07 pm
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    perfect world is unperffect world now… lol

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